Myfist0 … maybe we aren’t even talking about the right war, hahaha. How about we go way back to 1991 and revisit daddy Bush’s heroics, hehehe?

Noam Chomsky (2/4) - talks about the 1991 Gulf War in Iraq

LoL @ Chompsky "...we may as well kiss each other goodbye."

I like a quote from David Suzuki. "The human race is a freight train headed for a cliff and we are all fighting for the front seat."

 

 

The US supporting evil dictators is nothing new. They did it so often that they now will do it to US citizens with 

NDAA

I don't know why people in America should take any of this as a surprise ... the writing has been out in the open for sixty years and has progressively gotten worse. I wonder 'how low we can go’.  We have been writing about just this kind of corruption for years now. Smoothseas thinks intelligence whistleblowers deserve extra consideration ... and to a point I agree, but few seem to give these guys any more merit that the 911 whistleblowers got. I have researched Central and South America extensively just from curiosity and a desire for the truth to drive me on. In other words, I don't go anywhere besides the 'public domain' for all my information ... anyone else could just as easily ... if they wanted to. Regardless of party or color affiliation, there is nothing standing in the way of the USG besides the people of America … ALL the people of America. None can compete with us militarily and everyone knows this. We The People are the last bastion of hope for the Free World … all we have to do is hold onto our own, no simple task now.

 

Good vid BT. Bloggers unite. 

OK, so where do we go from here? We now know much that was masked by confusion and the ‘ever’ pressing need to do "something" ... even something atrocious. The lies and covert objectives have clearly been documented. We have the whistleblowers who I assume are willing to testify 'under oath'. At what point does a government which inflicts its own people with so much needless pain, suffering and injustice ... going to be held accountable for their actions made in the name of "We the People" ... without our consent? Now if ever there was an example of utter folly, this would be it:

We have voted these people in (like we had viable choices), but unlike we who have to seek out an existence in the “real world” they persist as politically protected leaches. So we pay these miscreants (and for all their lifelong perks) out of our pockets and then we ‘GIVE’ them the necessary funds to do with as they please. And in return for this trust we placed on all of them, we received what in return?

We don’t control the financial markets, the conglomerates,  the big banks and Insurance companies, Wall Street, the Department of military aggression, the Departments of NO-energy and NO-education, NASA, etc. etc. We have no say in foreign policy or any other USG ‘policy’ even though they often openly defy the Constitution. We do not need to know about USG ‘covert ops’ why??? How many decades have we been ‘discussing’ transparency … it has only gotten worse through the years.

These are all controlled by the USG … our employees. And just look around us and see what we have to show for this trust. Racism has been illegal here for many years now yet it is still used as a tool by our politicians who all know better … or don’t care. What happened to desegregated schools anyway? My two daughters were right in the middle of that mess, and that is what it was. What else does the USG have to ruin/taint in our lives that is going to convince the mind dead we have a real world personal (as in all of us) problem here? What next indeed?

That's exactly the problem. We are not given viable choices. I choose George Carlin's philosophy. I am now simply a spectator watching and waiting for the the circus to collapse.

If you haven't already take a look at the "Speaking Freely" series on Netflix. The two with Ray McGovern and Chalmers Johnston involve foreign policy, but the other two with John Perkins and Susan George are worthy views as well.

Smoothseas; I have seen two of the five listed ... but have reviewed many clips from all you mentioned on YouTube. I have them in my list to watch in their entirety. But the question still stands. What are we waiting for and why isn’t anything being done now? We know why the financial markets crashed; we know why the housing market crashed; we know why we went to war in Iraq; we know why the auto industry crashed; etc. And the USG was in total control. If the USG learned anything constructive instructive from 911 … it would be that the more volatile loyal the governmental miscreants are the bigger the rewards and screw the peons who must pay for it all. Just wondering hahaha … seems like few if any ‘responsible for’ heads rolled for the past twenty or thirty years, humm … a trend indeed.

What exactly do you propose doing? There are no simple solutions to the problems we face and no easy way to change the direction of foreign policy. I am not saying we should stand for the status quo,  but there are at least two sides to every single issue and a certain amount of people are affected negatively going in either direction. It seems very difficult to get anything done in a country that is very two sided. The thing that distresses me most is that the moderates in government have been driven out by extremists who see everything in terms of black and white. All I can say is take a look around the world and through history. Things may be as bad in this country as you have seen them in your own lifetime but I assure you they are not as bad as many other times in history and not as bad as things are in many other countries.

Some people understand these things however it seems that many don't because the propaganda machine is hard at work convincing many otherwise.

It depends on the issue. Some of the shenanigans was done legally even if it wasn't ethical. Some things that may have been done illegally are hard to prove or prosecute and some unfortunately have skated through because of political ties. Overall the blame goes to the individuals who participate in such things however I attribute the rise of the current level of corruption to the media not doing things like they used to. Most if not all of the major media outlets now hire political operatives to entertain the public as opposed to hiring investigative journalists to get to the root of things.

Well, it just seems too convenient and someone(s) should lose their head(s) is all. I found this clip looking over some Ron Paul YouTube’s and this brought back many of my own arguments. The blurb by Paul in the beginning is great too. I like the name used near the end … The Decider” … does seem fit hahaha.

What’s up with the Christians? I have not come across such consistent whining before … for so long. It sure sounds like facts are no longer an issue, just a hindrance, makes no sense??? I believe the intellectual side just doesn’t exist for these few anyway. I hate to just book out but it is getting to be a real drag, over and over … and I still think they don’t believe us ... even now.

It's all about fear. That is how they get rounded up and now the media and politicians are playing into it to rile them up. Gotta keep them warmed up in case diplomacy doesn't work this time around with Iran.

They never will and those who know will never admit. Got to have someone else to blame for all problems in the world including the ones they cause themselves.

Financial Crisis:Congress is tying things up. There are a bunch of AG's ready to make some heads roll and congress keeps things tied up. I think they all want their campaign contributions so some are trying to let them off easy with small fines and others want heads to roll. I prefer head rolling...fines ultimately come from the shareholders and don't go to those who got screwed. It's so slow that the details pass by with little mention and the politicians are keeping the crowd occupied with stupid social issues and promises that can't be kept.

Who Caused the Economic Crisis … and this is what I don’t get; there is plenty of blame to hand out to both parties and yet the arguments go down strict partisan lines. I skimmed the article but keyed in on the conclusion … The Real Deal.

http://factcheck.org/2008/10/who-caused-the-economic-crisis/ … the problem is one of "layered irresponsibility”.

That's what they do with almost every issue. Add to that media outlets which don't investigate anything anymore and simply interview politicians and their surrogates to report a story and look at what we have. There are only a handful of politicians at the national level that are actually willing to tell the whole story because the parties won't provide campaign funds to anyone who doesn't get in line with their one-sided narratives.

What they want to do is go after some of the companies where widespread mortgage fraud has been reported and also some that are reported to have not followed the law in regards to the foreclosure process. A handful of individuals connected with the mortgage industry have been prosecuted in the past but mainly because they were committing securities fraud and insider trading right before or while the "house of cards" was crumbling.

 

 

Before 1980, Afghanistan produced 0% of the world’s opium. After the USG backed Mujahideen (OBL) won against the Soviets in 1986, they were producing 40% of the world’s heroin supply. By 1999, they were producing 80% of the total world market. Then in steps the Taliban and by 2000, they had reduced the opium trade from +3,000 tons a year to 185 tons a year, a 94% reduction … but that was just unacceptable to US interests ... so the USG intervened again with its destructive version of democracy. Today, under US control, Afghanistan distributes +90% of the world’s heroin trade and breaks new production records every year. War on terror my ass.

This is for those why are impermeable to life’s mysteries and feel that the invention of the head protector was unnecessary and a personal rights violation ... it just cannot happen to me, hahaha.

The heroin trade has more to do with corruption in the Afghanistan gov't than any connection with the USG. The Taliban makes some money off it in order to supply themselves with arms, etc. and uses the issue for political reasons. What the Taliban makes off it is a relatively small percentage so it is suspected that the vast majority could be traced back to the Afghanistan govt. After all they need money as well. You may think that the USG doesn't say much about it so that makes them guilty but I would propose that they don't say much about it because they don't want to further strain the rather weak relationship we have with the Afghanistan govt to start with.

Don't forget that opium poppy farming isn't something that is totally illegal. It is something that is regulated since morphine,codeine, and papaverine are all derived from the opium poppy plant. In some countries heroin in pill form is prescribed over morphine because it has fewer side effects.

The Taliban while in control and probably for the wrong reasons almost annihilated this trade ... we removed the Taliban and the trade is back ... how are we not culpable in the extreme??? Anyone in the illegal drug trade is doing it for the same base reasons. You know the USG directly deals in illegal drugs by the tons right??? We had no problems with it while we were financially supporting the Contras (no list needed right) … before we were not supporting them hahaha. I just do not believe there are any scruples left in our foreign policy … because I cannot find any scruples in the people making the decisions. There is no doubt that the USG is making substantial profits from these illegal drugs (IMO) … we have the technology to do something drastic if we only wanted to … we didn’t ask when we invaded them?

We are talking about more than 90% of the world’s use ... not the ‘legal’ crops for medicinal uses etc. Damnation man, everything is our fault ... well a lot of things are anyway, hahaha. I am only speculating of course (statistics aside).