At least bring common sense to the table
All I have to do is ask YOU?
Published on February 18, 2011 By BoobzTwo In US Domestic

                Obviously this was a bad Idea.  Probably won’t be the last … but it has been educational, in a bad way. This series had nothing to do with religion at all, go figure. And since I am writing this, I don’t feel inclined to repeatedly tell you this is my opinion so just take it as a given. Since I do not have a Religious preference (and very specifically yours), it is impossible for me to respond to all your nonsense and you know it. WHY the nonsense?

                You are afraid of me and what I represent to your Religion!  You do not overly concern yourselves (outwardly) with other religions because you understand that they too have sacrificed their individuality to whatever collective is important to them (surely not your Master in Chief). The only times I became entangled in such nonsense as this in the past, was when I (used to) try to breach other brick walls. Don’t forget all those virgins the other guys were smart enough to demand.

As another example of mental conditioning, try talking to some liberal with a 9th grade education about GW in general let alone man made GW, who believes Igor their messiah … yuck … If you were inclined to be honest, this is exactly WHY we here in America are where we are now … EVERYONE is right and EVERYONE else is wrong

There is only one thing preventing worldwide cooperation and posterity the modern world could only imagine now, and it all boils down to … I am right and YOU are wrong.  (Of course, YOU are I here and I am YOU … of course.) Humm “I am, you are he, she it is …?” You figure it out?

The truth cannot be restricted to you alone and very seldom lasts longer than the time it takes for some miscreant person to learn of it. Your naiveté is unconscionable and inexcusable. … And because I am still put out by all your nonsense, I will give you vampires my stupidity rant … because your ignorance and self-rightness pomp, pretentious arses one and all, that you are!

If “I WERE GOD”: (OMG)

I would see no reason to take 6 days to build the Earth (don’t remember exactly); I would have no reason to rest on the Sabbath or for any other reason. I would have no use whatsoever for mind dead robots who can recite the Bible frontwards and back. Can you even imagine trying to tell people of this era that not only is the Earth round and that there are billions of Suns in our small galaxy and that there are billions of galaxies in our large universe … how long do you think you would have lived? Can you imagine the cries of heresy in a time when that was not a good thing.

 I would like to think that I could at least been original in in my Godly attributes and NOT plagiarize them from the ‘nonexistent’ past. And while we are still here; If I were concerned with promoting a lie, I would remove the billions of years of history preceding it … much better. I won’t even get into the plagiarized statements throughout that scrupulous Book of yours … WORD FOR WORD from past pagan worshippers.

But you have the UNIVERSAL pat talking points when any of your arguments fail under any scrutiny at all … “God works in mysterious ways, my son” and if that still doesn’t work you pull out the granddaddy of the all … “The devil did it”, another factious figure from your Good book written in an era of pagan worshipers.

No, the perceptions from a people with this limited a concept of reality, no matter how (ig) noble their intentions, could have anything to say that doesn’t belong in some archive. How could they know … and how could you believe them without question … brainwashing … MAYBE?

Then the flat little world grew up and actual factual TRUE knowledge was recorded and passed outside the closely guarded circles of your ilk and their ilk’s influence, and then communications became extensive and quick and then the death of ALL pagan religions began at last. You cannot FAKE a virginal birth … any more. Beware the “Age of Aquarius” … because it is almost upon you.

Now if you took the time to read this nonsense (yea, right), this is why (short version) I do not believe in your absolute unquestioning misplaced faith. If you ever want to discuss my problems with your (all) Religions, just stick your bible where the sun doesn’t shine and come prepared with facts and figures … not self-serving bloviating and ‘words of wisdom’ from some ilk’y figure you cherish. Try using your own words in ‘American Speak” just like I did … and if it is not beyond your ability, try being civil.

And lastly, if I were an omnipotent GOD, all-knowing and all that trash, I would wipe out this miserable failure and save all the death and agony people have learned to bless each other with… and start with whales or dolphins or some other superior subjects.

 But since I am a very happy and free minded person, living in the real world well beyond your limited little isolated circle of existence and influence with its mindless restrictions on mental and physical freedom, I really do not care …


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on Feb 18, 2011

This is my opinion

Every blog is just an opinion. Some are backed up with facts (links to facts), but the essence of a blog is the author's opinion.

You are afraid of me and what I represent to your Religion!

Hardly.  You are projecting. You are culling down all the comments made by all the posters and trying to create some sort of avatar out of them to use as a strawman.  In so doing, you wind up flailing at windmills since your avatar represents no one who commented accurately.

about GW in general let alone man made GW,

Stay up with the times.  Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) became Global Climate Change (note the sneakiness on how they removed man from the equation) which became Global Climate Disruption (GCD - like any other STD), which became Catastrophic Climate Change.

If “I WERE GOD”: (OMG)

The next section you go into is a good representation of my second point.  By creating the "mythical YOU" you have basically opened yourself up to valid criticism of misrepresenting anyone or representing no one.  Some will bite at the bait, but I do not like arguing strawmen.

I really do not care …

Yes you do, or you would not have taken the time to construct a strawman and then the additional time to argue against it.  In your case, the expression is "could care less" not "couldn't care less".

 

A final point.  if we all agreed in lockstep with one another, we would be bored out of our skull caps!  Variety is the spice of life.

on Feb 18, 2011

Amen Doc! 

It's my opinion that he doth protest a bit too much. 

on Feb 18, 2011

oh and another thought that hit me when I saw the title of this blog... did you know that was the exact question Pilate put to Jesus before he gave his permission to have him crucified?  He asked "what is truth?"  when the truth was standing right in front of him. 

 

on Feb 18, 2011

 

Very interesting article although I have still having issues figuring out why it's under the "US Domestic" category. Anyways, here is "my opinion" on parts of "your opinion".

Obviously this was a bad Idea. Probably won’t be the last … but it has been educational, in a bad way.

Obviously it was not if it was educational. Not all education has to be good in order to learn. How do you think someone figured out fire is painful if you put your hand in it?

You are afraid of me and what I represent to your Religion!

No, not really. I believe everyone has the right to believe what they want and I also believe that my beliefs are strong enough to withstand anyone else's beliefs so I don't fear any actions or damage that may come from the difference between our beliefs. BTW, this is not an opinion, this is an assumption. You assume we fear you but you can not prove this.

If “I WERE GOD”: (OMG)

Talk about opening up a can of worms. I can't even accept this as a valid point because everyone would do things differently after seeing the results of something as oppose to doing it without knowing the results. But then if you were God you probably could see the results before the action and would probably not think the way you do now because it's easy for one to assume one would be a certain way if one were a God when not being one but I believe that if given the chance those ways would probably change. Kinda like winning the lottery, one can say one would buy a house, 2 cars, pay off their bills and credits and go on vacation, but you can't really prove this would be what would happen if you actually did win the lottery because you are assuming from a "if I did" point of view and not from a "I have" point of view.

I would see no reason to take 6 days to build the Earth (don’t remember exactly); I would have no reason to rest on the Sabbath or for any other reason. I would have no use whatsoever for mind dead robots who can recite the Bible frontwards and back. Can you even imagine trying to tell people of this era that not only is the Earth round and that there are billions of Suns in our small galaxy and that there are billions of galaxies in our large universe … how long do you think you would have lived? Can you imagine the cries of heresy in a time when that was not a good thing.

And now you know why you were or are not. Again thinking from a "If I were" position as oppose to "I've already been there" position. Things change when what you always wanted actually happens. Not everything goes according to plan.

Try using your own words in ‘American Speak” just like I did … and if it is not beyond your ability, try being civil.

I tried so far although i doubt you will accept this as my "American speak" but then I am not looking for your approval. BTW, every heard of the saying "Do as I say not as I do"? Kinda interesting how you ask for civility (just like the Democrats) while writing an entire article that seems to lack any civility. Just in case it's needed

civil - not rude; marked by satisfactory (or especially minimal) adherence to social usages and sufficient but not noteworthy consideration for others

But since I am a very happy and free minded person, living in the real world well beyond your limited little isolated circle of existence and influence with its mindless restrictions on mental and physical freedom, I really do not care …

I think this one also deserves a link:

free-minded -

Main Entry: happy-go-lucky
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: blithely unconcerned
Synonyms: blithe, carefree, carefree and untroubled, casual, cheerful, content, cool, devil-may-care, easy, easygoing, feckless, free and easy, free-minded , heedless, improvident, insouciant, irresponsible, lackadaisical*, lighthearted, living the life of Riley, nonchalant, reckless, unconcerned, untroubled, without care
Antonyms: disconsolate, discontented, dissatisfied, distressed, troubled, upset, worried

Don't seem like you a free-minded to me but again you did state it's your opinion. BTW, what word is this you live in? Doesn't seem to be the same as mine or even a real one for that matter. Godless does not make you more human, alive or in reality than anyone else. You simply have a different kind of religion, the kind that lacks a God or more precisely, one that makes you the one above all else.

 

 

 

 

on Feb 18, 2011

Yes you do, or you would not have taken the time to construct a strawman and then the additional time to argue against it. In your case, the expression is "could care less" not "couldn't care less".

I 3rd that.

on Feb 18, 2011

What is the Truth … finish? All I have to do is ask YOU?

I've already given my thoughts on the answer to the question in your title. 

To me, truth is objective. It’s something we discover in reality. Truth isn’t under man’s control because man does not create truth.

Truth is truth even if you don't believe it. Truth is neither yours nor mine. It is independent of each of us.  We hold things because they are true. They are not true because we happen to believe them. Truth is consistent. If you have the truth on a given subject and my ideas conflict with yours, then I do not possess the truth. And if I’m right, then  you haven’t got the truth. Truth can be found only by sincerely seeking it.

BTWO writes:

The truth cannot be restricted to you alone

Note the highlighted...this seems to be one point on truth we have in common.

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This series had nothing to do with religion at all, go figure.

You evidently think this is so, but it does have to do with religion and by your own doing. And of this article, religion or something pertaining to it in one way or another is brought up in just about every paragraph....so sorry, no sale.  

Since I do not have a Religious preference

Yes you do. Atheism is a religious preference and your views, opinions and claims made in these series of articles reflect that.

 

You are afraid of me and what I represent to your Religion!

As to the statement itself I agree with DRG. ("Hardly") and Charles ("No, not really"). 

However, I'm curious as to what you mean. As you know I'm Catholic...so let's plug that in. How am I afraid of you and what you represent to my religion Catholicsm?

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on Feb 18, 2011

And because I am still put out by all your nonsense, I will give you vampires my stupidity rant

If “I WERE GOD”: (OMG)

 

then blah, blah, blah....

I'm glad you called it a stupidity rant.   

 

on Feb 18, 2011

What is the Truth … finish? All I have to do is ask YOU?

KFC posts:

oh and another thought that hit me when I saw the title of this blog... did you know that was the exact question Pilate put to Jesus before he gave his permission to have him crucified? He asked "what is truth?" when the truth was standing right in front of him.

Ya, Pilate's famous question. Christ is Truth Itself Who spoke and taught the truth...absolute truth. The reality which Pilate was having doubts about he could have literally reached out and touched.

And that is often how it is with all of us too.  The truth is right before our eyes but we don't see it BECASUE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. A corrupted will has blinded the intellect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

on Feb 19, 2011

Lulu, all this is nice but it requires one assumption ... a belief in an idol (or ideology) that I do not believe physically existed in our past. Where is there some common ground here for me? I have the entire history on the human race to garner my beliefs ... and you have a book that provides all of yours, how convenient. I understand WHY you have to continuously dog any outside views on religion, but you should realize that without that faith (justified or not), your arguments just do not hold any water (for me). This always gets me on tangents away from my subjects and into fields where I do not like to go … like religion.

It is all quite academic anyway because you cannot prove that Jesus ever lived on this earth nor can you prove where he was to have lived when he invented the one and only truth. And until you can … you are just blowing smoke (at me).  

As to your world and mine, you live in a bible and I do not … where is the confusion here?

You will not even allow me the consideration for opting out of your apparent madness.

As far as atheism is concerned, play your word games but:  If you have a bunch of fruit laying on a table to represent the different religions … and you eventually take all the fruit away, what do you have left? You have NO FRUIT, not some different kind of fruit and in the analogy; you will have NO RELIGION left not a different kind of religion. Go figure. We must have studied different courses on logic.

You define all the rules, the research material allowed, all the proper words to use (and their meanings and intentions), provide the only truth and the only acceptable answers … is there somewhere in your biblical world for an actual conversation?

I stayed away from any particular religion because I feel they are all the same so plug in whatever you want. Also I do not know the least thing about you (just your beliefs) so you are on your own there too. As to religion, I myself am meaningless but I represent a variety of people who now have extensive worldwide access to actual knowledge who are no longer willing to take the 2000 year old book (or anything) and dedicate the rest of our lives in its justification. This will be your undoing in the end (IMO).

It is no different than “Obama show us your birth certificate” and all will be well so … show me the birth certificate (their equivalent whatever that might have been) and we can progress, otherwise you are just trying to propagandize me based on your beliefs which can have nothing at all to do with the truth if you cannot prove them. All you seem to be able to do is JUSTIFY them which has nothing at all to do with the truth.

So you believe and I do not … so what …

Doc, I wish you would stop doing this to me. GLOBAL WARMING was a SIMPLE analogy aimed at utter stupidity (where of course, ALL religions belong). Get with the times, how silly of me???

You guys are going to drive me to drinking with all this nonsense!

on Feb 19, 2011

Lulu, all this is nice but it requires one assumption ... a belief in an idol (or ideology) that I do not believe physically existed in our past.

That Jesus Christ physically existed is not an assumption. This truth can be found only by sincerely seeking it.

It is all quite academic anyway because you cannot prove that Jesus ever lived on this earth nor can you prove where he was to have lived when he invented the one and only truth. And until you can … you are just blowing smoke (at me).

Even if you refuse to accept the fact that for over 2, 000 years the prophets of the Old Law declared that God had revealed to them the coming of Jesus, the Messias who was to be the Redeemer of all mankind and refuse to accept the books from the 4 Evangelists and St.Paul (which btw are as historical as any others), there is most assuredly positive evidence recorded by credible historians that Jesus Christ my Lord and God physically existed. For beginners, I'm thinking of Tacitus, the Roman historian, also, Josephus Flavius, the Jewish historian born in Jerusalem in 37 and died in 101.  

We prove Christ's life and works from historical documents and we prove the Church from the promise of Christ.

I have the entire history on the human race to garner my beliefs ... and you have a book that provides all of yours, how convenient.

Ya, good..we both have the entire history on the human race.  Then get busy and check out those historians I just referenced.

I have the entire history on the human race to garner my beliefs ... and you have a book that provides all of yours, how convenient.

  "All"...Ah no. The Bible which proves to be reliable historical document is just part of it. I have the Church (Sacred Tradition) which came before the Bible, indeed wrote the Bible, preserved it and determined which books were inspired. The Catholic Church whose very existence today cannot be explained by natural forces, guarantees the Bible as the inspired Word of God.

 

 

on Feb 19, 2011

It is all quite academic anyway because you cannot prove that Jesus ever lived on this earth

hmmmm have you ever checked the history of our calendar?  Have you not known that there are other books of antiquity (outside of the inspired scriptures)  that have mentioned this man of Nazarath who walked the earth doing miraculous things?  Not to mention the men who died on his behalf. 

a belief in an idol (or ideology) that I do not believe physically existed in our past.

Do you celebrate Christmas?    Hmmmmm now be truthful. 

It's interesting that what happened in a little manger over 2,000 years ago, in a little nothing town to two nobodies can affect New York City traffic thousands of miles away every December 24th! 

 

on Feb 19, 2011

As to your world and mine, you live in a bible and I do not … where is the confusion here?

We both live in the same world but have radically different religious belief systems. I believe in God and try my best to live by Christ's teachings, which are the teachings of the Catholic Church and the Bible. As a self proclaimed Atheist, you don't.    

I don't really see any confusion. You're doing your atheistic thing...slamming religion and religious people and trying to prove that theism and Christianity is wrong and it's not that you are unintelligent, but rather it's that you have false ideas of religion, particularly Christianity. And I'm doing mine...defending against atheistic slams.

So you believe and I do not … so what …

So in the marketplace, we have competing belief systems and ideas.   

As far as atheism is concerned, play your word games but: If you have a bunch of fruit laying on a table to represent the different religions … and you eventually take all the fruit away, what do you have left? You have NO FRUIT, not some different kind of fruit and in the analogy; you will have NO RELIGION left not a different kind of religion. Go figure. We must have studied different courses on logic.

Atheism is a pathology that needs explaining whereas theism (believing in God) is a natural condition of a sound psychology. The stamp of God's handiwork is so clearly impressed upon us that all nations instinctively believe that there is a God. The truth is in possession. Men do not have to persuade themselves that there is a God. They have to try to persuade themselves that there is no God. And yet no one who has attained such a temporary persuasion has been able to find a valid reason for it. Men do not grow into the idea of God, they endeavor to grow out of it.  

I stayed away from any particular religion because I feel they are all the same so plug in whatever you want.

Yes, I see that you and other irreligionists like Hitchens and Dawkins lump all religions as though they are the same. Bl. Mother Theresa, Gandhi, and Mohammad were "religious" people but in reality have nothing in common.

You define all the rules, the research material allowed, all the proper words to use (and their meanings and intentions), provide the only truth and the only acceptable answers … is there somewhere in your biblical world for an actual conversation?

I'm posting on your blogs aren't I? I've always thought dialogue is fine even if the focus is on differences. I'll discuss as long as the discussion remains civil.

 

 

on Feb 19, 2011

good stuff Lula...except for the Catholic part.....

on Feb 24, 2011

I'm posting on your blogs aren't I? I've always thought dialogue is fine even if the focus is on differences. I'll discuss as long as the discussion remains civil.

No Lulu, it is NOT that simple, I posted this somewhere ... but It summs it up for ME perfectly. Nothing wrong with differences, the spice of life ... but you always want ME to argue against god's word ... what can I possibly say???

I am NEVER EVER talking about the perfectness of an ideology that can do or say no wrong (by decree). What in the world can I rebut with? You have predetermined the right and wrong of it … and that is it. So I stay outside this environment at all costs. This is where you are comfortable and completely protected … and I am not. I do not have any defense at all in there BECAUSE you are comparing ME with GOD or at least his words … and find me failing. Is ok

The things I discuss cannot be found in your bible (never found anyone living in there) where it is all fuzzy and perfect. Most people close down their shops, walk outside the door and enter a world where the TRUTH takes on new meanings implications and most do not care what YOU personally (or morally) think. Be as righteous as you need to be and never ever be wrong … but all your beliefs are meaningless to the two thugs waiting by your car. Maybe this will make sense: You are concerned with the soul and I am concerned with the person … works for me … wish it would work for you too?

I am ALWAYS discussing MAN’s laws … and you are ALWAYS talking GOD’s. Come on now; ME = ATHEIST = NO GOD … but you just keep trying to force me to defend myself against something I do not believe in … doesn’t that sound pretty stupid to you, TOO? If all you can do is filter out the humanity and insert your ideology … and cannot put anything in some real time today (like right now) perspective there is nothing I can do about it … but we will NOT be chatting much because this is just too much to ask for ... I suspect.

I do NOT study religious doctrine nor am I a Theology quick study. I do not read or study the bible (anymore). I do not believe in god … what am I missing?

on Feb 24, 2011

I do not believe in god … what am I missing?

Salvation. 

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