At least bring common sense to the table
… the movie – 2004 – By Michael Moore
Published on May 4, 2011 By BoobzTwo In Politics

I must confess that I actually thought I hated this man and everything he was about until I started experiencing an overload of inaccurate and fictitious information the USG keeps pounding out and calling it the truth … so I decided to try an independent review of what I thought I knew and didn’t really. So I never watched or read anything Moore was involved with but I was more than willing to tell you how screwed up he was. So I rented the movie from Netflix and watched it … and I was amazed.

I have watched it twice now and I cannot find one shred of much information that is not factual or accurate. Beyond some idiosyncrasies in his sense of humor (they are funny); he presents very valid arguments and backs them up with documentation and interviews. He brings to light many of the things I have discovered in my own research into deceit, terrorism and the USG.

When I was a liberal (before I knew better) the only accurate information had to come from another liberal else it was a lie??? Later when I made my second mistake and became a conservative I learned the error of my ways … the truth could only be had from like ilk … so imagine my confusion when I called the neolibs and neocons for what they are and went independent. Suddenly, I have no source of valid information at all now (seemingly hehehe). I have had no success at all trying to walk the moderate tightrope between all the sharks without one side or the other dragging me down, go figure.

As far as Democrats/Republicans are concerned, their only care about the independent majority is how many they can acquire each election. But no matter which side is the best recruiter or who gets most independent votes … matters that concern the moderates will largely be ignored or sidelined and the neo-politicians will go their own course virtually unrestricted and completely unaccountable.


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on May 25, 2011

Always better to work with good trash.
Not always, but a good place to start if one has to I suppose, but personally, I just try to  filter out the trash because good and bad are pretty much meaningless distractions here.

 

on May 25, 2011

myfist0
Reply #315  myfist0
The first recorded terrorists were Jewish. Stalin coined the words "sleeper cells" to describe the Americans hiding in Russia to be activated to disrupt their government at the call of the USG. That pic you showed elsewhere perfectly indicates what the Israeli / Palestine solution is going to be and how much peace effort there really is.

The war on terror, what a misnomer if ever there was one, go figure.

on May 26, 2011

CNN Gets Blitzed by Michael Moore

also looking at Moore's new movie "Capitalism: A Love Story"

 

Michael Moore on Larry King Live - 4/27/10 Senate hearings on Goldman Sax


 

on May 28, 2011

Wouldn’t it be patriotic if people could afford to spend a little bit of effort looking at the USG instead of icons such as Moore, hehehe.

I liked Moore's response when asked if he hated the USG - NO! They put a man on the moon in 8 years ... why FDR defeated Japan’s Imperialism, Italy’s Fascism and Germanys Nazi’s in less time than it has taken us to secure the road from the airport to downtown Bagdad. Progress???

Who "owns Israel, who knows, let's ask the previous owners... dates are approximations as I tried to read the time line.

1st owner, period, Egypt – 1400 BC
2nd Owner, Kingdom of Israel – 1000 BC
3rd Assyrian Empire – 650 BC (Small portion of Israel survived)
4th Babylonian Empire – 500 BC
5th Persian Empire – 400 BC
6th Macedonian Empire – 100 BC
7th Roman Empire – 25 BC
8th Byzantine Empire – 550 AD
9th Sassanid Empire – 700 AD
10th Caliphate- 800 AD
11th Seljuk Empire – 1100 AD
12th The Crusader Kingdoms – 1150 AD
13th Saladin’s Empire – 1790 AD
XXth Mongol Empire did not go there – 1500 AD.
14th Ottoman Empire – 1700 AD
15th European Colonialism – 1910
XXth National states and borders established – 1945 AD
16th State of Israel CREATED – 1949 AD



on May 28, 2011

BoobzTwo
Who "owns Israel, who knows, let's ask the previous owners... dates are approximations as I tried to read the time line.

1st owner, period, Egypt – 1400 BC
2nd Owner, Kingdom of Israel – 1000 BC
3rd Assyrian Empire – 650 BC (Small portion of Israel survived)
4th Babylonian Empire – 500 BC
5th Persian Empire – 400 BC
6th Macedonian Empire – 100 BC
7th Roman Empire – 25 BC
8th Byzantine Empire – 550 AD
9th Sassanid Empire – 700 AD
10th Caliphate- 800 AD
11th Seljuk Empire – 1100 AD
12th The Crusader Kingdoms – 1150 AD
13th Saladin’s Empire – 1790 AD
XXth Mongol Empire did not go there – 1500 AD.
14th Ottoman Empire – 1700 AD
15th European Colonialism – 1910
XXth National states and borders established – 1945 AD
16th State of Israel CREATED – 1949 AD



From the very beginning, the wars in the Middle East have always been over the land and water.

 

on May 28, 2011

lulapilgrim
Who "owns Israel, who knows, let's ask the previous owners... dates are approximations as I tried to read the time line.

1st owner, period, Egypt – 1400 BC
2nd Owner, Kingdom of Israel – 1000 BC
3rd Assyrian Empire – 650 BC (Small portion of Israel survived)
4th Babylonian Empire – 500 BC
5th Persian Empire – 400 BC
6th Macedonian Empire – 100 BC
7th Roman Empire – 25 BC
8th Byzantine Empire – 550 AD
9th Sassanid Empire – 700 AD
10th Caliphate- 800 AD
11th Seljuk Empire – 1100 AD
12th The Crusader Kingdoms – 1150 AD
13th Saladin’s Empire – 1790 AD
XXth Mongol Empire did not go there – 1500 AD.
14th Ottoman Empire – 1700 AD
15th European Colonialism – 1910
XXth National states and borders established – 1945 AD
16th State of Israel CREATED – 1949 AD

Perhaps you should post this on the other blog in which who owns the land is the major discussion?

on May 28, 2011

lulapilgrim
From the very beginning, the wars in the Middle East have always been over the land and water.
Didn't you watch the clip ... imperialism and expansionism are always over 'land and water' and have been throughout our entire known history. And most of it was in support of one god or another just as it is today. I just do not think religions are rational, you know that?

on May 30, 2011

The problem with "Stay the Course" and all that nonsense is the implications of the future ...

Don't want to bring disaray to the Federation?  

on Jun 01, 2011

myfist0, there are a few things in this clip that I couldn't remember reviewing ... like the first thing mentioned. I heard this from Richard Clarke but couldn't remember where I had seen it. 

on Jun 01, 2011

No BT, it's these kinds of videos that really undermine the 911 truthers. If there was a CNN crew there would be a record. The rest is really high fetched propaganda that just makes people that ask legitimate questions look like "conspiracy nuts". If I were behind this plan and wanted to turn the peoples questions away from me this would be the perfect way and also turn the doubters into quacks.

I think Bush was way to stupid to pull this off. The people that paid for bush to get in is where you start because he was their YES man. You make me president and I will do this and this and these presidents are basically selling there souls to be a puppet. Look into who pays and what they get in return for their payment. Even Chaney who probably made billions with Haliburton was not one the real masters of the plan but easily went along to get rich. Follow the money. Hint: Start with the biggest fund contributors and lobby groups and find out why Bin Ladin declared war on the U.S. and why they are trying to hide what he actually said.

Even if they were all just puppets they still deserve to be hung for war crimes and treason. The only thing the 911 Commission report is good for is wiping your ass. 

I like to light simple fires online but going down this rabbit hole is a one way trip you might regret. Be prepared for the consequences of making public what is down that hole.

on Jun 01, 2011

These two quotes kind of made me laugh. In the first one you identify the problem... the powers that be manipulating the perception of what should or should not be taken as truth.

myfist0
If there was a CNN crew there would be a record. The rest is really high fetched propaganda that just makes people that ask legitimate questions look like "conspiracy nuts". If I were behind this plan and wanted to turn the peoples questions away from me this would be the perfect way and also turn the doubters into quacks.

I agree. But then you perpetuate the "propaganda" that wanted the public to believe Bush was an unintelligent puppet.

myfist0
I think Bush was way to stupid to pull this off

Bush may not have been the best speaker, or presented himself as an elitist. He certainly didn't make all the folks from the left or even the right happy, but stupid? Hardly, but that gives the left comfort (only a smart person, that we proclaim is smart, can truly be "one of us"). I guess the perception finger can point both ways depending on which it suits.

on Jun 01, 2011

Nitro Cruiser
But then you perpetuate the "propaganda" that wanted the public to believe Bush was an unintelligent puppet.

He was clearly a buffoon which made a great yes man and to much of a chicken shit to be another Kennedy.

You at least have to be bright enough to fool the public into believing that you're the one in charge. Not hard obviously.

on Jun 02, 2011

myfist0
Reply #325  myfist0
When I first saw this clip, the first thing that popped into my head was Newt’s rendition on how to use FedEx to locate and round up ALL illegal intruders.


I have to agree though, I think Bush and Obama are intellectual equals especially whenever they are not under very strict management. I would love to discuss the New World Order but see no point to it here in JU. I cannot convince the misinformed that Afghanistan and Iraq are perfect examples, so what would the point be? I may write an article concerning it, but not now. If people are refusing to revisit their ‘facts’ with the provable knowledge that we now have and with the relief time offers us to return to saner thinking, well, you can lead a horse to water but...


No, my emphasis here was the location of Osama in June of 2001 and the Richard Clarke comments. I do not think the mentally deficient will bother to even watch the clip being so knowledgeable and all ... not a problem.

on Jun 02, 2011

myfist0
Chaney who probably made billions with Haliburton

on Jun 02, 2011

Name any one person 'smart enough' to have pulled it off.  Hell, name any 400 people collectively smart enough to have pulled it off.

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