GirlFriendTess......

There are only two types of people who would argue a Religious-based topic on the net.... fanatics and trolls.

The former won't be swayed and the latter won't care.

You're on a hiding to nothing.....

How is this thread still going?  I can only do serious troll for so long....

Glad we're on the same page.  Keep this in mind next time somebody attempts to hint at the notion that viewing the planet as simply a three dimensional sphere in space is not only a dated perspective, but also an extremely limiting one.

 

"We" don't know anything, as you and I obviously have quite different backgrounds.  However both of us

 

Mankind itself is behind most of the plagues that it suffers from.  Is politics a religion or a science?

 

A book, and what people do with it, are two entirely different matters.  Personally I was able to derive quite a bit of historical and psychological insight from the text.

 

Healers have been practicing anesthesiology for thousands of years.

 

Most religious folk I know consider themselves quite erred, including myself.  Every day brings new struggles, and growth.

 

Where am I "popping in from", and how exactly am I redirecting the OP?

 

Why are you so quick to dismiss a discovery that you haven't even attempted to make yet?

 

"We" (people performing experiments), are doing this every day.  Einstein disproved Newton's theory of gravity.  I thought we agreed that "science isn't defacto"?

 

What?

 

I might ask you to be so considerate in your denigrating of the intelligent design theory, but I really don't care what you do.  The fact that you feel my contributions to the thread diminish the value of it's content in any way tells me nothing more than how little you care for this "conversation".  Honestly, the thread feels more like a support group for insecurity.  Please clarify your goals, but only if you are actually interested in discussing the theory of intelligent design, or relativity, or anything other than the unsupported assertion that Christianity at it's core is ignorant.  Ignorance comes in all shapes and sizes, and from all walks of life.  I really don't care to discuss the matter.

 

I might actually buy this shirt if I saw it hanging in a store.

 

If you are truly interesting in these lines of thought, I recommend the authors Amit Goswami, and P.D. Ouspensky's "Tertium Organum", just to name a couple.

GFT automatically denigrates anything said by anyone she can attach to the word 'Christian.'  I'm not sure if this applies to other religions or not.  If I said the sky was blue, she would call me stupid and say it's azure.

WOW, that is one, weak ass argument.

She'd also say that Christians believe the sky is green, and that's it's obviously not.

It's black.

The 'blue' is from refracted light through moisture...

Under that theory, everything is black.

 

Not actually, the color of the sky has to to a lot with the scatter of photons in the atmosphere. It is a lot of math that I don't pretend to understand.

 

Here is a basic description: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/BlueSky/blue_sky.html

See, we've now had a reasonable conversation about the color of the sky and where it comes from, without anyone calling anyone else an idiot, or saying they can't understand, comprehend, or speak English properly, or really any insults at all.

That's what a conversation looks like.

Way'da go at taking the thread off coarse, mod included.

Obvious absence of 'intelligent design' here... 

 Excellent.

Well, I seen a political science class that I avoided like the plague, I prefer anarchy. My observation led me to believe that people treat politics just like religion, fanatical. Their leader could cut a baby in half in front of them, and most will all make up reasons why the baby needed to be cut in half. Most people have lost the ability of critical thinking and most just rely on the crap coming from TV and take it all as 'gospel', anyone that questions it wears tinfoil hats. Anyway, both religion and politics are just systems of control for the many, in the hands of a few. 

This is the big reason I have a hard time with ID. Seems to me they are just trying to keep God relevant in a scientific world where more and more people are just refusing to drink the fluoride (oops, tinfoil hat off). I have yet to read or be shown anything that would make me think ID is anything more than being asked to have faith, again. If I look a potato chip long enough, I am sure I will see the Virgin Mary or whatever else I wanted to see. Sorry, all I see is a potato chip.

 

As far as I can tell, the deeper we get into what people are made of, what life is made of, and what non-life is made of, the harder it is to jump that gap from non-life to life.  How is it possible for it to have formed?  Scientists can't figure it out - maybe someday they will.  I doubt it though.  The machines that are in our cells to make them run, the cyclical nature of life... life has always needed life before it in order to live.  The theory that at one point, that was not true, does not make sense.  But, if you make an assumption that God isn't, then you must make the assumption that non-life became alive.

PS - Rude huh, let’s see what options are available to you without you having to fix your broke-dick computer: You can ignore them (obviously your choice), you could Google the name (Ken Miller a practicing Catholic) and find something your computer will allow you to look at, you could buy a book or two and do your own research for a change or you could just ask another Christian whom you believe to be just as flawless as you and have them look at it and explain it to you, etc. But you prefer to whine about the injustice of it all.

 

You youself have restated back to me that you know I can't see your video postings at all.  Why are you then replying to my post with a video?  That seems rather rude.

Hello Jafo, nice to hear from you again, but I am sure you didn't mean just two types of people. There is nothing inflammatory about evolution which is my view of course, but it cannot be refuted with facts, only mysticism. Sadly even the biblical tails of magic are themselves impossible without evolution … yet it just doesn’t work for them. Without evolution there is no possibility that Noah and his boat load of pairs repopulated the entire world. So I don’t feel at all trollish about discussing evolution because it HAS to work for everyone whether or not they believe in it. I am always open to new ideas as long as they can be presented in a manner that doesn’t require me to believe it based on nothing besides ‘faith’. 

Besides, this would be a dull place if everyone just posted what ‘everyone’ else was comfortable with. Nobody is required to believe anything they don’t want to … but you cannot in good faith argue that ‘it just doesn’t work’.